Have Big Banks heard about this “Bonuses” study sponsored by Fed Res Bank?

I have blogged many times about the “iatrogenic” effects from paying big bonuses. Like when “Bonus Culture” inhibits creativity in the organisation and the observation that rewards sabotage people’s intrinsic motivation and sabotage good customer service.  The idea of using rewards to drive/modify behaviour comes from the Old Psychology models. To get to understand the [...]

I have blogged many times about the “iatrogenic” effects from paying big bonuses. Like when “Bonus Culture” inhibits creativity in the organisation and the observation that rewards sabotage people’s intrinsic motivation and sabotage good customer service.  The idea of using rewards to drive/modify behaviour comes from the Old Psychology models. To get to understand the nature of intrinsic human motivation we need to look to New Psychology models.

Well the RSA have just produced this video summary in their Animate series from Dan Pink which summarises some of the other problems about paying bonuses, including a study at M.I.T. sponsored apparently by the USA Federal Reserve Bank.

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Breaking News -RBS Performance Improves when top people (the bonus seekers?) leave!

I have blogged quite a lot about the problems of the “bonus culture” particularly where very large bonuses are concerned. There was
How Rewards Sabotage Creativity and
Unintended Consequences – what do very large bonuses attract? and
Bonus Culture – proud to win a cabbage not the cash?
And have you heard the latest spin on this from the [...]

I have blogged quite a lot about the problems of the “bonus culture” particularly where very large bonuses are concerned. There was

How Rewards Sabotage Creativity and

Unintended Consequences – what do very large bonuses attract? and

Bonus Culture – proud to win a cabbage not the cash?

And have you heard the latest spin on this from the Royal Bank of Scotland? (as reported by Graham Jones)

Graham says

The boss of RBS has scored a Gordon Brown-like “own goal”. The bank’s Chairman, Sir Philip Hampton, has admitted that city bankers are paid too much – “astonishingly high”, is what he said their salaries were. He went on to say, however, that if you don’t pay these big salaries, then people leave. Indeed, said Sir Philip, many of the “top people” have already left RBS. That was before he went on to explain that the bank had achieved much better results than expected. Sorry, run that past me again? The “top people” have left – and the bank has improved. Er…sounds to me like you should let more of them leave, Sir Philip…!

which is more or less what I have been saying for sometime!

and Graham goes on to say:

But why is it that everyone in the banking industry – and the Government – falls for the line “we have to pay people high salaries in order to keep them”?

If you want to read more on this then go to Graham’s blog here

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RBS Performance Improves when ‘Top People’ Leave (unintended consequence?)

I have blogged quite a lot about the problems of the “bonus culture” particularly where very large bonuses are concerned. There was
How Rewards Sabotage Creativity and
Unintended Consequences – what do very large bonuses attract? and
Bonus Culture – proud to win a cabbage not the cash?
And have you heard the latest spin on this from the [...]

I have blogged quite a lot about the problems of the “bonus culture” particularly where very large bonuses are concerned. There was

How Rewards Sabotage Creativity and

Unintended Consequences – what do very large bonuses attract? and

Bonus Culture – proud to win a cabbage not the cash?

And have you heard the latest spin on this from the Royal Bank of Scotland? (as reported by Graham Jones)

Graham says

The boss of RBS has scored a Gordon Brown-like “own goal”. The bank’s Chairman, Sir Philip Hampton, has admitted that city bankers are paid too much – “astonishingly high”, is what he said their salaries were. He went on to say, however, that if you don’t pay these big salaries, then people leave. Indeed, said Sir Philip, many of the “top people” have already left RBS. That was before he went on to explain that the bank had achieved much better results than expected. Sorry, run that past me again? The “top people” have left – and the bank has improved. Er…sounds to me like you should let more of them leave, Sir Philip…!

which is more or less what I have been saying for sometime!

and Graham goes on to say:

But why is it that everyone in the banking industry – and the Government – falls for the line “we have to pay people high salaries in order to keep them”?

If you want to read more on this then go to Graham’s blog here

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How Rewards Sabotage Creativity

The best creativity arises from intrinsically motivated individuals – those who are doing something for the satisfaction within the task itself or for the satisfaction from the completion of a task. Intrinsic motivation is driven by curiosity and the desire to make a difference. Extrinsic motivation is driven by the temptation of a carrot or [...]

The best creativity arises from intrinsically motivated individuals – those who are doing something for the satisfaction within the task itself or for the satisfaction from the completion of a task. Intrinsic motivation is driven by curiosity and the desire to make a difference. Extrinsic motivation is driven by the temptation of a carrot or the fear from a stick.

Intrinsic motivation is sabotaged by rewards. It’s almost that simple.

With rewards, the focus is on the reward not on the desire to complete a task or to make a difference. People start to do the tasks for the reward rather than the satisfaction of doing something of value.

Old Psychology demonstrated that animals do things for reward or to get away from pain (the carrot or stick approach). Old Psychology holds when the animal has survival needs unsatisfied (the hungry cat can be tempted but the satisfied cat can’t) and the theory of manipulation by carrot or stick holds true (Skinner’s original work with animals actually only worked when they were frightened and half-starved).

New Psychology is different. Creation Companies are those that are becoming more and more tuned in to New Psychology and New Thinking Principles. A Creation Company will recognise that when a human being has most of their basic needs met, carrot and stick is not as effective as Old Psychology predicts (thought those that would say they are ‘hungry’ for success can be tempted by the really big rewards).

But as Alfie Kohn and now Daniel Pink have affirmed there is very little evidence that rewards improve human performance in the long-term. And the main reason is that extrinsic motivators sabotage intrinsic motivation. Linking pay to performance therefore sabotages long-term performance. The Banking Crisis is an example that partially arose when companies, and individuals, focussed on the carrots and not on the service. Lose sight of the task and you lose sight of the potential disastrous consequences of doing things for the wrong reasons. Thus it is not therefore a question of moderating the bonus culture,  with legislation if necessary, (as Politicians and Business Leaders would suggest) rather the question is how can we abolish the bonus culture.

We need to find mechanisms whereby people benefit from the long-term success of an organisation rather than rewarded for the profit they make on behalf of the company as individuals. We need this for companies to become Creation Companies that produce goods and services for the general good and well-being of people, life and the planet. That do things for the seventh-generation long term and not next year’s wage packet.

If you are a leader and you are not convinced by the idea that rewards sabotage intrinsic motivation (and thus also sabotage creativity and creative thought) then read Alfie Kohn’s “Punishment by Reward” or view Dan Pink’s video on the surprising science of motivation here

Now is the time for leaders to wake up to the fact that much of what we do in the guise of ‘management’ is detrimental to improvement (see here the Seven Deadly Diseases of Management)

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Twitter Weekly Updates for 2009-06-28

preparing(with mind maps) content of two Business workshops- Birmingham -July on (1) Building Relationships and (2) Thinking and Creativity #
Soon to start rehearsing with my mate Pete for the Open Mike tonight at the Cock and Magpie in Bewdley Worcestershire (just down the road) #
Just about to make hay whilst the sun shines. Taking some [...]

  • preparing(with mind maps) content of two Business workshops- Birmingham -July on (1) Building Relationships and (2) Thinking and Creativity #
  • Soon to start rehearsing with my mate Pete for the Open Mike tonight at the Cock and Magpie in Bewdley Worcestershire (just down the road) #
  • Just about to make hay whilst the sun shines. Taking some books just received from Amazon out into the garden to read. Will post reviews. #
  • Wow is it hot here in Sunny Stourport 24 degrees in the shade. Reading a book by Frank Bettger on Sales with the foreword by Dale Carnegie! #
  • Frank Bettger’s 1st insight, from “How I raised myself from failure to success in Selling”- you can acquire enthusiasm- just be enthusiastic #
  • Bettger’s 2nd insight- how was he going to keep seeing the people to sell the life insurance? Kept complete records for 12months that’s how #
  • Bettger’s records showed that in 1 year he made 1849 calls, saw 828 people,closed 65 sales- so each call was worth (making) to him $2.30. #
  • The biggest enemy that Bettger had to face? The fear of making a fool in front of groups. So he took a speaking course- with Dale Carnegie! #
  • Been a long day, started 7am Worcester Breakfast Club; in Birmingham all day (and boy did it rain),circuit training tonight, meal, & bath! #
  • Michael Jackson – a tragedy just waiting to happen? – finding a single ’cause’ for his death (or one thing to blame) is not really possible! #
  • Michael Jackson’s Toxicology Tests- 3days to do the scientific analysis- six weeks for many opinions to interpret results & agree a “cause”? #

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